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GE and Mindful Awareness

Post by DaveA » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:55 am

TS over at the IPA asked (without realizing it)...
What is GE and Mindful Awareness?
I said I would create a thread for him which contains an explanation.
The IPA forum has too many communication impediments.
It's impossible to provide a multi-link thread with formatting that makes it readable...so I'm creating it here. I'm only allowed one link on the IPA...so it will be to here where I can answer properly.

:arrow: RESISTING anxiety...makes anxiety STRONGER.
:arrow: Attempting to block FEARFUL THOUGHTS...makes them STRONGER.


Those results are the exact opposite of what countless paruretics like myself are TRYING to achieve.

Modern Psychology and science have PROVEN what I said above.

Current "best practices" for Psychology employ the concepts of...
:idea: GE (Gradual Exposure)
:idea: Mindful Awareness


...To help patients overcome DISTORTED, UNREALISTIC, HARMFUL, FEARFUL THOUGHTS.
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Re: GE and Mindful Awareness

Post by DaveA » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:07 am

The way you use GE and Mindful Awareness (aka "The ACT Principles") is...

:idea: Place yourself in a situation you fear, that is only SLIGHTLY stressful.

For recovery from paruresis, that means that you want a situation in which you CAN POSSIBLY start your stream...but it's a bit of a challenge. That's GE.

You expose yourself to a fearful situation (that you can ALMOST handle) and then you use the concepts of Mindful Awareness to cause DESENSITIZATION to occur.

:idea: Without using Mindful Awareness (during GE sessions), it's possible to do GE and NOT benefit from it...or traumatize yourself more than you already are.

In the next reply, I'll post the most relevant links I can find or think of.
If I overlook anything that anyone here feels should be included...please post the link in this thread to assist TS and whomever else might be interested. :mrgreen:
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Re: GE and Mindful Awareness

Post by DaveA » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:25 am

The Mindful Awareness concepts, which promote desensitization results from GE are...

:idea: The Impartial Observer
:idea: Experience the anxiety. DON'T attempt to distract from it or block it in any way. FEEL it, embrace it.
:idea: CHALLENGE your bullshit fearful thoughts, dispute them*.

*That's only possible IF the meanings and values you've assigned to your paruretic symptoms are bullshit.
For virtually all of us, our fears are 100% valid...till we realize they are 100% bullshit.

So obviously, that's a critical part of the recovery process.
For as long as your paruretic fears are valid...you'll remain paruretic, and you should.

For example, if your paruresis means you're less of a man, or pitiful, or somehow lacking...then of course you should keep the secret at any cost, who wouldn't?

On the other hand, if you come to realize (as I did) that your paruretic fears and beliefs about what it "says about you" are bullshit that ate nearly your entire fucking life unnecessarily...you're primed to benefit from GE using Mindful Awareness.

The other qualifier IMO for benefiting from GE with Mindful Awareness...is making a decision on what's MORE important to you.

:arrow: Is your secret more important than your freedom?
As a wise man once said...
You can have your secret, or you can have your freedom...but you can't have both.
- Carl Robbins, Co-Founder IPA.

Okay, I'm in babble mode...links will (hopefully) be in the post which follows.
I'm trying to keep the discrete components in separate posts, please bear with me. :mrgreen:
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Re: GE and Mindful Awareness

Post by DaveA » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:39 am

Relevant Links:

Video: Chapter 14: Efficient Gradual Exposure
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1301&sid=8e2a69e7d ... 9ed67b93a9

Video: No Recovery With GE Only
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1278&sid=8e2a69e7d ... 9ed67b93a9

Video:Chapter 09: GE Works!
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1283&sid=8e2a69e7d ... 9ed67b93a9

Video: Chapter 12 - How to Break the Anxiety Loop
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1296&sid=8e2a69e7d ... 9ed67b93a9
Note: this link takes you to a thread with multiple relevant links.

Video: Chapter 13: Your Amygdala and Paruresis
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1299&sid=8e2a69e7d ... 9ed67b93a9

Video: Chapter 16: Tools of Recovery
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1305&sid=8e2a69e7d ... 9ed67b93a9

Discussion: In-Vivo: Mental Process Questions
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1609&p=6389&hilit= ... 93a9#p6389

:idea: Use the search function here in this talk forum.
Search for the word "mindful".
The threads where it's discussed contain some pretty good stuff IMO.

:idea: Use the search function over at the IPA talk forums to search for discussion of "mindful" there also.

:idea: Search for and read ANYTHING that IPA Co-Founder Carl Robbins posted over the years.


I hope some or all of this helps. :mrgreen:
You can't successfully tease a person about something they don't feel embarrassed about.
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